DS Language learning

Not sure there's anyone out there any more, but worth mentioning this to see the response...

Just seen that there are two Japanese learning games on the DS here in the UK

• My Japanese Coach
• Mind Your Language: Learn Japanese

Not sure how good these are, but one reviewer rated the first of these (MYL isn't out until next month)...

If you already have a DS and are serious about learning Japanese, you should get this game to help along your study, particularly if you are not fortunate enough to have a Japanese speaker giving you regular lessons.

So this may not be much use for me and the boy, but I'm interested as it would help my visual learning bias. There is one pretty major grip about kanji stroke order, which could be really annoying, but as a tool for learning - imagine having a DS version of fb's KanjiBox app (v2 in beta now!). How cool would that be?

The same reviewer also mentions a couple of Japanese titles:

I've purchased some Japanese games for the DS recently, which have been useful for Kanji and Kana learning (Kanji Sonomama DS Rakubikjiten and Tadashii Kanji Kakitori kun - both available from Amazon Japan).

Anyone used any of these? Let me know and I may try getting hold of them.